Token-Kopie einer transformierten Karte
Judge Level 2Die alte Judge-Antwort ist falsch geworden: Der Token hat heute beide Seiten.
Beteiligte Karten
Der verwandelte Delver
Dein Delver of Secrets hat sich transformiert und ist als Insectile Aberration (3/2, Flieger) unterwegs. Du wirkst Cackling Counterpart: ein Token als Kopie der Kreatur.
Was passiert?
Was ist der Token?
Die klassische Judge-Fangfrage:
Wähle eine Antwort — dann geht es weiter.
Seit der Regel-Modernisierung zu Innistrad: Midnight Hunt gilt: Die Token-Kopie einer doppelseitigen Karte ist selbst ein doppelseitiger Token mit beiden Seiten; kopierst du ein Permanent mit offener Rückseite, kommt der Token mit der Rückseite nach oben (707.8a). Und doppelseitige TOKEN dürfen transformieren (712.9).
707.8aIf an effect creates a token that is a copy of a double-faced permanent or a double-faced card not on the battlefield, the resulting token is a double-faced token that has both a front face and a back face. The characteristics of each face are determined by the copiable values of the same face of the permanent or card it is a copy of, as modified by any other copy effects that apply to that object. If the token is a copy of a double-faced permanent with its back face up, the token enters the battlefield with its back face up. This rule does not apply to tokens that are created with their own set of characteristics and enter the battlefield as a copy of a double-faced object due to a replacement effect.
712.9Only permanents represented by double-faced tokens and double-faced cards that are not meld cards can transform or convert. (See rule 701.27, “Transform,” and rule 701.28, “Convert.”) If a spell or ability instructs a player to transform or convert any permanent that isn’t represented by a double-faced token or a double-faced card, nothing happens.
Der Token landet
Ein zweiter 3/2-Flieger. Würde ihn ein Effekt „transformieren", würde seine Delver-Vorderseite sichtbar — bei Token-Kopien einseitiger Karten passiert dagegen weiterhin nichts.
707.8aIf an effect creates a token that is a copy of a double-faced permanent or a double-faced card not on the battlefield, the resulting token is a double-faced token that has both a front face and a back face. The characteristics of each face are determined by the copiable values of the same face of the permanent or card it is a copy of, as modified by any other copy effects that apply to that object. If the token is a copy of a double-faced permanent with its back face up, the token enters the battlefield with its back face up. This rule does not apply to tokens that are created with their own set of characteristics and enter the battlefield as a copy of a double-faced object due to a replacement effect.
Vorsicht, veraltetes Wissen
Die frühere Antwort („kopiert nur die aktuelle Seite, kann nie transformieren") stand jahrelang in Judge-Foren — sie ist seit 2021 FALSCH. Alte Quellen prüfen, bevor man am Tisch diskutiert.
707.8aIf an effect creates a token that is a copy of a double-faced permanent or a double-faced card not on the battlefield, the resulting token is a double-faced token that has both a front face and a back face. The characteristics of each face are determined by the copiable values of the same face of the permanent or card it is a copy of, as modified by any other copy effects that apply to that object. If the token is a copy of a double-faced permanent with its back face up, the token enters the battlefield with its back face up. This rule does not apply to tokens that are created with their own set of characteristics and enter the battlefield as a copy of a double-faced object due to a replacement effect.
712.9Only permanents represented by double-faced tokens and double-faced cards that are not meld cards can transform or convert. (See rule 701.27, “Transform,” and rule 701.28, “Convert.”) If a spell or ability instructs a player to transform or convert any permanent that isn’t represented by a double-faced token or a double-faced card, nothing happens.
Stack
Delver of Secrets // Insectile Aberration
Transformiert: Insectile Aberration (3/2, Flieger)
Cackling Counterpart
Erzeuge einen Token als Kopie deiner Kreatur
Kopie: Delver of Secrets // Insectile Aberration
Doppelseitiger Token — kommt als Aberration
Der Stack ist leer.
Schlachtfeld
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