Der Trigger in der Antwort-Kette
Judge Level 1Der Blitz wird neutralisiert — aber der Guttersnipe-Trigger war schneller auf dem Stack.
Beteiligte Karten
Blitz + Guttersnipe
Du kontrollierst Guttersnipe und wirkst einen Blitz auf deinen Gegner. Der Guttersnipe-Trigger löst beim Wirken aus und wird über den Blitz auf den Stack gelegt.
603.3Once an ability has triggered, its controller puts it on the stack as an object that’s not a card the next time a player would receive priority. See rule 117, “Timing and Priority.” The ability becomes the topmost object on the stack. It has the text of the ability that created it, and no other characteristics. It remains on the stack until it’s countered, it resolves, a rule causes it to be removed from the stack, or an effect moves it elsewhere.
Der Gegner neutralisiert den Blitz
Dein Gegner wirkt Counterspell — Ziel ist der Blitz ganz unten. Der Stack von oben: Counterspell, Guttersnipe-Trigger, Blitz.
Was passiert?
Counterspell wird sich gleich verrechnen.
Der Blitz wird neutralisiert werden. Bekommt dein Gegner trotzdem die 2 Trigger-Schadenspunkte?
Wähle eine Antwort — dann geht es weiter.
Das Wirken selbst ist das auslösende Ereignis — es lässt sich nicht dadurch ungeschehen machen, dass der Spruch später neutralisiert wird. Dieselbe Logik steckt hinter dem Storm-Szenario.
113.7aOnce activated or triggered, an ability exists on the stack independently of its source. Destruction or removal of the source after that time won’t affect the ability. Note that some abilities cause a source to do something (for example, “This creature deals 1 damage to any target”) rather than the ability doing anything directly. In these cases, any activated or triggered ability that references information about the source for use while announcing an activated ability or putting a triggered ability on the stack checks that information when the ability is put onto the stack. Otherwise, it will check that information when it resolves. In both instances, if the source is no longer in the zone it’s expected to be in at that time, its last known information is used. The source can still perform the action even though it no longer exists.
Counterspell verrechnet sich
Der Blitz ist neutralisiert und geht ohne Effekt in den Friedhof.
701.6aTo counter a spell or ability means to cancel it, removing it from the stack. It doesn’t resolve and none of its effects occur. A countered spell is put into its owner’s graveyard.
Der Trigger trifft
Der Guttersnipe-Trigger verrechnet sich: 2 Schaden an deinen Gegner. Dein Blitz war neutralisiert — Schaden gab es trotzdem.
Stack
Leben des Gegners:
Guttersnipe
Wirkst du einen Spontanzauber/eine Hexerei: 2 Schaden an jeden Gegner
Lightning Bolt
Ziel: dein Gegner
Counterspell
Ziel: der Blitz
Ausgelöste Fähigkeit: Guttersnipe
Guttersnipe-Trigger: 2 Schaden an jeden Gegner
Der Stack ist leer.
Schlachtfeld
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Kurz beantwortet
Verrechnet sich ein Wirken-Trigger noch, wenn der auslösende Spruch neutralisiert wird?
Lösung anzeigen Lösung ausblenden
Das Wirken selbst ist das auslösende Ereignis — es lässt sich nicht dadurch ungeschehen machen, dass der Spruch später neutralisiert wird. Dieselbe Logik steckt hinter dem Storm-Szenario.
603.3Once an ability has triggered, its controller puts it on the stack as an object that’s not a card the next time a player would receive priority. See rule 117, “Timing and Priority.” The ability becomes the topmost object on the stack. It has the text of the ability that created it, and no other characteristics. It remains on the stack until it’s countered, it resolves, a rule causes it to be removed from the stack, or an effect moves it elsewhere.
113.7aOnce activated or triggered, an ability exists on the stack independently of its source. Destruction or removal of the source after that time won’t affect the ability. Note that some abilities cause a source to do something (for example, “This creature deals 1 damage to any target”) rather than the ability doing anything directly. In these cases, any activated or triggered ability that references information about the source for use while announcing an activated ability or putting a triggered ability on the stack checks that information when the ability is put onto the stack. Otherwise, it will check that information when it resolves. In both instances, if the source is no longer in the zone it’s expected to be in at that time, its last known information is used. The source can still perform the action even though it no longer exists.
701.6aTo counter a spell or ability means to cancel it, removing it from the stack. It doesn’t resolve and none of its effects occur. A countered spell is put into its owner’s graveyard.
608.1Each time all players pass in succession, the spell or ability on top of the stack resolves. (See rule 609, “Effects.”)